Steve Emerson on Fox Business
Channel with Stuart Varney
Interview on Fox
Business Network
February 25, 2016
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Stuart Varney: My next guest is the enemy of radical
Islam. He's received many death threats because of this. He lives much of
his life in hiding. He has an Investigative Project to root out the funding
and managing of deadly terror groups. Welcome everyone the Investigative
Project guy, his name is Steve Emerson. Sir, it's a pleasure to have you on
the program. Welcome.
Emerson: Good to be with you Stuart.
Varney: There's a bold statement I read from you – ISIS is
ahead of us in technology. That seems incredible to me. Do you want to
explain it?
Emerson: Well let me modify that. Let's just say
there's a cat and mouse game and the mouse seems to be winning at this
point. ISIS has been able to exploit its use of Western technology to the
point of basically encrypting its communications, using American and
Western technology to avoid being hit by drones, using American and Western
technology and building logarithms to avoid being shut down by Twitter.
Twitter shut down 15,000 accounts, but ISIS continues to send out tens of thousands
of Twitter feeds. And in fact I have with me these manuals that we obtained
from ISIS – I'm not going to publicly reveal them – but they reveal for
example [that] "beginning in 2014 Twitter accounts connected with ISIS
began tweeting technical information advising jihadists how to foil attacks
by American drones, laser guided bombs and missiles." The document,
it's pretty incredible.
Varney: How did they do this? Are they recruiting Muslims who
are raised in Western technology culture? Is that how they're doing this?
Emerson: Well they're recruiting all types. They're
recruiting social media experts. Well first of all they're recruiting
soldiers and that's one key to their success. So they've got a territory.
They're becoming a self-contained state with all the accoutrement of the
state. They've got weapons, they've got territory, they're starting to get
their own currency, they've got money. And now they're beginning to develop
their own technology. They are recruiting [specialists in the West]; they
deliberately focus on social engineering recruits in the West. And in fact
[although] it has not been known publicly but they actually managed to get
a senior IT official of a Western law enforcement agency to defect to ISIS
in the past year.
Varney: That's a big win for the other side. Steven Emerson I'm
sorry it's so short but you raise a very interesting point here. And we
appreciate you being with us. Thank you.
Emerson: You're welcome.
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