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Emerson on Fox News: The New Global Jihad and the Threat against the US
by Steven Emerson
Interview on Fox News September 27, 2014
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Uma Pemmaraju: The President making his case to general assembly this week. President Obama is emphasizing his efforts to form an international coalition against terrorists in the Middle East today. But as the ISIS threat grows, we're learning more about other extremist organizations as well, like the al Qaeda-linked Khorasan group that has purportedly been planning an attack on the United States. Steve Emerson is a terrorism analyst and expert consulting with the FBI on matters of national security. We welcome you here to our studios today. Thank you so much for joining us, Steve. I've got to get your reaction to what's been developing in Oklahoma. I'm sure that you are quite aware of the concerns about home grown terrorists that are reportedly, you know, growing in number in different parts of the country. We just haven't seen recent incidents like this. But from your perspective, what do you think? Steve Emerson: Well I think we actually - there have been more incidents than had been reported. There was one in New Jersey where a man who had actually killed four people and confessed that he killed them because of his desire to avenge the killings of Muslims by the United States. And that was not reported widely and the FBI was told to stand down. That was home grown terrorism. That happened in July. In this case, this still is an open question. But there's no doubt this guy was a fanatical Muslim radical. It was clear by his Facebook page, you know, pictures. Also the FBI found in his computer that they seized that he had been looking at radical Islamic websites. He had tried to convert his co-workers. He had made radical statements. Now the only question is what made him pop. Was it because he was disgruntled because he was fired or was it because he was carrying out calls to avenge the attacks against ISIS? We still don't know. But it's clear that the fact he decapitated someone, that is definitely unique to what ISIS or radical Islam calls for. There are two verses in the Koran that call for decapitation and that's unique to Islam [in being carried out today]. Pemmaraju: Let's talk about, in addition to ISIS we've been hearing a lot more about the group known as Khorasan, something we didn't really know much about until recently. These are all offshoots from Al Qaeda? Emerson: It's a reaggragation of al Qaeda on a much smaller basis. They've got one agenda – attack the United States, primarily high-tech means through building bombs. Primarily through defeating technology on airplanes. And they reacquired the high-tech people who built those bombs, apparently the ones [that built] the underwear bomber in Detroit, the ones who built the cargo bombs going over the United States. Pemmaraju: Some say they're more of a threat right now to us in the homeland than ISIS. Emerson: Yes, there's no doubt. ISIS' agenda right now is to solidify its base, build the caliphate. Second stage, take over the Middle East Arab states like Saudi Arabia, sort of create an insurrection. And then attack the West. It has called for attacks against the West. but these are generalized calls, sort of loan wolves. But that's very dangerous because as someone said to me last night we're now entering the phase of a global jihad. Australia is experiencing the highest phase of threats that it ever has in its history. And the US or actually Britain now is the second highest phase. The United States I'm afraid is going to be entering that phase very shortly. Pemmaraju: What's changed in terms of recruiting? Why is it so, you know, exciting for some of these young people to go ahead and be part of these groups? Emerson: First of all they're really pre-selecting people now that are willing to die as opposed to previous jihad wars where anybody could volunteer. And [as far as] the arrests that we have seen since 9/11--and there have been hundreds of arrests, some 90 convictions for terrorist plots--most of them have been people that have been willing to carry out attacks, not suicide bombings, but rather remote detonations of bombs. In the case of ISIS, these are volunteers that have vetted and vetted twice. Once in the United States or in Europe, and then on the borders with Syria. And they're vetted to see if they're willing to carry out suicide bombings. Pemmaraju: Sort of more of an elite group so to speak? Emerson: Sort of an elite suicide group. So they're willing to carry out really vicious bombings. When they come back to the West, either Europe or the United States, that's when they're going to cause the most damage. And that's the biggest fear, when the generalized calls go out and say carry out as many killings as you can, they are willing to do so. Pemmaraju: Scary. Steve Emerson, great to see you. Thank you for joining us today. Emerson: You're welcome.
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Emerson on Fox News - Justice with Judge Jeanine: The Jihadists in Oklahoma and the Obama Administration's Blinders on Islamic Extremism
by Steven Emerson
Interview on Fox News September 28, 2014
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Steve Emerson: His Facebook page is replete with statements, pictures that emphatically reveal his allegiance to radical Islam, his hatred of the United States, his support of 9/11 attacks, his support of killing Americans, his support of Osama bin Laden. It's a road map to his affiliation and his support to radical Islam. It's proof of the fact that he's a jihadist. Judge Jeanine: So when you say that he has the markings of a jihadist, tell us why. Emerson: Let me add a couple of other things here. Not only does the Facebook page prove that beyond a shadow of a doubt [that he was a jihadist], but the fact that his computers that were seized by law enforcement show that the websites he visited also revealed that he was looking at radical websites that were radical Islamic websites going for the killing of Americans. He was converted in jail to be a radical Muslim. The first step that is done by jihadists to prove, after when they start converting people, which he was doing, after he was released from jail, to prove that they can carry out acts of terrorism. So I'm looking at a scenario here, we don't know, let me say Jeanine, what actually prompted him to pop. He was fired from his job. We don't know that he was carrying out this beheading as a jihadist or that he was carrying it out because he was fired. But he carried it out as a jihadist in a jihadist manner, a decapitation which is an Islamic way. But this guy was a ticking time bomb and I'm positive in saying this. That if he didn't carry out this attack now at this point he would have done it in the future. And there are tens of thousands of others like him lurking outside, in the United States who haven't done this but are jihadists and are just waiting to do it. And that's the problem. Because as you know as a judge, you need a criminal predicate in order to charge somebody. Just because they express their support for jihad and willingness to kill, you can't charge them, you can't open up an investigation. Judge Jeanine: Of course not, but Steve let me say that it is the intent, it's the circumstances surrounding the crime both before and after that give us some sense of what the individual was thinking. And I think for the American people they're wondering if this is a carrying out of a jihadi, a lone wolf carrying out his own jihad or if this is something bigger than that. But make no mistake Steve, this guy is imprisoned and actually tried to escape from detention and did escape. He was charged with assaulting an officer. He just got out of state prison. And we're going to talk a little later in the show about the radicalization of some of our inmates to Islam based upon what they're learning in prison. But with this case, how do we know whether or not his trying to recruit other people to join Islam is indicative f his being a jihadist? Emerson: Well first of all there were profiles done [by the FBI and CIA] a couple years ago about Muslim inmates who are converted to Islam and what they actually do in prison and what they do after they get out of prison. The first thing they do out of prison in order to prove their loyalty to Islam is to actually try to convert people to Islam to prove that they are true Muslims. The second thing they do after they prove that is to do other steps [that prove they can be trusted to carry out terrorist acts]. I believe this [current situation] is going to lead to other people involved, [like] somebody who was running this guy frankly. Number two, I believe that if we find out that he popped or that he carried out this killing because he was angry about being fired, [that] if he wasn't fired he would have [ultimately] carried out…[sometime] else, a jihadist killing, because he was a radical jihadist that believed in killing Americans. And frankly Jeanine, there are tens of thousands of others like him in this country. I have no doubt that we are going to see other things like this, like are going on around the world. We are entering a global jihad. And the fact is this administration, the Attorney General, the White House, they have banned the use of the term 'Islamic terrorism.' He, [the] Attorney General who is retiring should be tried on obstruction of justice because I can tell you, [and] this is not publicly known, he has quashed the indictments of terrorist charges against known terrorist charities because he didn't want to alienate Islamic communities in the US. Judge Jeanine: I wish I had more time Steve to talk to you about that. Steve Emerson, thanks so much for being with us this evening. Emerson: You're welcome.
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