Emerson
on Fox Business: Threat from Cross-Border Terrorists a Ticking Time Bomb
Fox Business Network
June 2, 2016
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Stuart Varney: Police in Germany have arrested three Syrians with
alleged ties to an ISIS terror plot over there. Steven Emerson joins us
now. He is the Executive Director of the Investigative Project on Terrorism.
Steven, I don't think you are surprised to hear about these arrests in
Germany, are you?
Steven Emerson: No, I'm surprised that we haven't seen more of
them. But ISIS had already declared their intent to insert terrorists among
the refugee population. And in fact we've seen that [occur] in the Brussels
attacks and the Paris attacks last year. And they continue to round up ISIS
terrorists with papers that have been issued by ISIS passport makers in
Syria and Iraq. It continues to happen with increasing frequency. And we're
seeing it now even on the southern border.
Varney: If there were a serious terror incident – another one in
Europe – that would have enormous political repercussions in Europe because
of the migrant crisis, wouldn't it?
Emerson: Well you know I was thinking about that the other day.
And Stuart, you know that in the last five months there have been upwards
of almost 1,000 rapes in more than a dozen cities in Europe by some of the
refugees. There's no [denying this].... you know that's absolutely true,
and the police have been feckless. In Germany I think Angela Merkel's term,
her tenure is finished, because there's such a backlash against [her] by
the population. Having said that, I don't think that's made a dent in terms
of [her] policies.
Varney: It hasn't, not yet, but this kind of, 1,000 rapes you're
talking about, plus terror incidents already, changes the politics of
Europe though, doesn't it?
Emerson: Well it changes the politics in terms of changing, you
know, the [outcome of the] elections – yes, in terms of changing the
government – yes, but in terms of the policies, they've already started to
restrict some of the immigration [of] refugees, but... in Germany it's a
one to one: Basically they're going to keep one for every one they send
back to Turkey. They already have 800,000 [refugees]. What is France going
to do? You know they already have – look, there are a lot of Muslims there
that are not....most of them are not terrorists or radical, but you have 9
million [Muslims in France], and of the 9 million who are indigenous you
have an X percentage that are actually very radical, and those were the
ones that participated in the attacks last December. So you know it's not
just the refugees.
Varney: Talk to us about this one, because 3 million immigrants
have come to America in the last two years, that's 3 million total. Of that
total, 1.1 million were illegal, just walked across the border. That's what
it looks like. Now that, we're vulnerable to attack. We have not yet seen
an attack inside America from border jumpers. I don't think we have. Do you
think we will?
Emerson: Well you raise a very good point. I can't really tell you....,
I mean I think the illegals come here, and also some of them are
over-stays, they come here on a three-month tourist visa, they stay here,
they don't get picked up, and that's because the government turns the other
way. But I think in terms of those coming over the border, that's very
interesting, because increasingly government agents in DHS have been
stymied in terms of reporting the number of what they call, it's a
government acronym – SIAs, Special Interest Aliens. Those are the aliens
that come here, apply for asylum, say, 'We're being oppressed,' and in
terms of their background the U.S. government ultimately finds out that
they actually have terrorist connections. What happens? They put them in
detention, they interrogate them, and then they give them a first class
ticket back to Afghanistan to join, rejoin the Taliban, rejoin
Lashkar-e-Taiba, rejoin Al-Shabaab. And for every one that they catch there
are probably 20 they don't catch. So yes, there are hundreds, hundreds that
make it across the border from Mexico that are involved, have been involved
in terrorism in the past. And it's a ticking time bomb they say. And I
spoke to someone last night, and he said we're just waiting for a major
attack to occur and we've just been lucky so far that it hasn't been
instigated by someone across the border.
Varney: Well Steven, that is a chilling note to end it on, but we
must end it right there. Steven Emerson, thanks for joining us sir,
appreciate it.
Emerson: You bet.
[End transcript]
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