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March 30, 2016
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Hoekstra:
Islamists Have the Means, Will to Destabilize Gov'ts in the Middle East
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J.D. Hayworth: Overseas tonight US military and diplomatic dependents;
in other words the family of our servicemen and diplomats have been
requested to leave southern Turkey as there is real concern of terror
attacks. Obviously, the entire world remains on edge following the bombings
in Brussels done by ISIS terrorists. The frequency of these attacks of this
terror group appear to be expanding. The countries where they are
perpetrating these attacks increase. The attacks grow in their lethality.
According to several reports, ISIS has been sending trained operatives into
Europe for years before these latest attacks but officials there in Europe
just failed to connect the dots. For more let's welcome in retired U.S.
Army Colonel Patrick Murray who served in Iraq, in Russia and at the United
Nations. He joins us from Newsmax Washington. He's also the author of the
book Government is the Problem. And likewise, joining us via Skype
from Bonita Springs, Florida former Chairman of the House Intelligence
Committee Pete Hoekstra who is currently the Shillman Senior Fellow for the
Investigative Project on Terrorism. He is the author of the book Architects
of Disaster: The Destruction of Libya. Pete, first this word about the
dependents of diplomats and military personnel in southern Turkey; heck
pre-9/11 I was in Izmir on a congressional visit they told me back then at
an assassination risk for Americans was high. Has it only gotten worse
these days in Turkey?
Pete Hoekstra: Oh it has absolutely gotten worse. You've got the
caliphate there in Syria and Iraq. This is a launching pad. This is a
training ground for jihadists; what they want to do in the Middle East. The
Investigative Project on Terrorism, we just predicted this. They want to
get into Turkey, Jordan, Saudi, the UAE to disrupt these governments; to
create instability, more instability in the region. So, no, this is not a
surprise at all. They've got the means and the will to do this.
Hayworth: Patrick Murray, it made news earlier today because it appeared
in the New York Times but it's scarcely a bulletin. The Times
reporting that ISIS started sending operatives into Europe a few years ago.
Some were captured by authorities but a lot of these folks were released.
Why on Earth wasn't European intelligence able to connect the dots?
Colonel Patrick Murray: Well good evening JD this speaks to the
sophistication and strategic planning that ISIS has. They are hardly the
JV. They have an entire sub-unit that is an external operations unit that
plans, trains, equips, arms, funds these foreign fighters that go into, not
just Europe, but they've been very successful in Europe. And it's been
going on for several years and in fact a lot of the authorities in Europe
they just were not able to connect these dots JD. They saw them as isolated
incidents that were going on when in fact they were not isolated incidents.
This is a planned network that ISIS has and they run it out of Raqqa,
Syria.
Hayworth: Hey Pete we were talking about Turkey; there's another report
from Britain's Sky News. ISIS plans specifically to target Jewish children
in Turkey; going after kindergartens and schools. ISIS is intent on brutal
killings but it just shocks the world they're going after kids. Are they
just emboldened to continue until we really take them on?
Hoekstra: Well the question is will we ever get to the point where we
really take them on. Obviously when you take a look at what happened in
Pakistan these radical jihadists, whether it's the Taliban whether it's Al
Qaeda whether it's ISIS, they are brutal murderers. They killed over 70
Christians in Pakistan. Why would we be surprised that they would be
attacking Jewish children in Turkey? And going back to the earlier topic in
Europe, you know I've got to write a new book; Architects of Disaster: What
the European leadership has done in Europe by failing to connect the dots,
by looking the other way is almost criminal. And their policies continue
welcoming in millions of refugees that ISIS has seeded. It is a gross
failure of leadership, and they're going to pay the price at the polls.
Hayworth: We might just call it Architects of Impotence and Ignorance
but deliberately trying to see no evil in the threats. Now Colonel, before
we go just a weird story today, The Egypt Air airliner, diverted on the
flight from Alexandria to Cairo, ends up in Cyprus. Apparently, this is not
terror related. The man was distraught over a romantic relationship but
this comes six months after that Russian jet exploded. What does that tell
us about airport security in Egypt. Twenty seconds.
Murray: That's exactly right. This ended well which is a good thing. But
the question you have to ask yourself JD. The guy had a fake suicide vest
and you had all kinds of fake explosives. How does a guy, who is mentally
unstable, get through airport security with all of the paraphernalia, real
or fake, that's what happened with this.
Hayworth: All right well we will keep our eyes on all the strange
happenings around the world. Patrick Murray tonight from Newsmax
Washington, Pete Hoekstra from Bonita Springs, Florida. Gentleman, you have
our thanks.
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